This was a speech given at the RCIA retreat we hosted for those entering the Church at Easter Vigil (2004). Though Anna Marie is actually a parishioner next door at Holy Redeemer in East Vancouver, she is our friend and ally in Christ, and her story is so good that it deems our attention.

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Hello, my name is Anna Marie Groark and I was asked to tell you about my journey to the Catholic Faith. I was raised in the Lutheran Church and entered the Catholic Church in September 2002.

Looking back on my life, I think I have always been Catholic, I just didn’t know it and nobody told me. I have always loved the Blessed Mother and can remember as a child playing “Catholic Lady” I would go to the dime store and buy plastic Rosary beads and veils, they sold them there back then. I would walk around very holy in my flip flops, shorts, scraped knees and my veil, clutching my Rosary. I would go into St. Mary’s Church in Gary Indiana and pretend. I can still remember the smell of that Church, for some reason I think that is what Holy Water and marble smell like. I envied the Catholic girls and their smart uniforms.

I met my husband Michael in 1982. He was raised Catholic, but started attending the Lutheran Church several years before I met him. I was sure that our life together would be doubly blessed since we didn’t have to worry about being of different faiths. Indeed we were blessed with a very nice life and 3 wonderful children who we brought up in the Lutheran Church.

We attended Church fairly regularly, participated in the many social happenings, and supported the Church financially somewhat regularly. We had many friends in the Lutheran Church and had very close relationships with our Pastors over the years. The Lutheran Church taught me many valuable lifelong lessons. Most importantly that Jesus loves me, and that he didn’t come for the holy people, he came to save the sinners like me. However, there was something missing. I never had the feeling that I was truly worshiping our Lord. Sermons were usually stories from the Pastors family and life experience that ended up with a good moral attached. I felt like I was not being challenged to live more Christ like, or to grow in Holiness or faith. I never could understand Sola-Scriptura (of course at the time I had never heard the term) because I wondered about all the people who were alive before the Bible was printed. I also knew that Jesus must have done a lot more than the Holy Scriptures had room to tell. Another thing that was confusing to me was the Communion of Saints. It was OK to think about and talk about our loved ones who have passed away, watching, loving and inspiring us from Heaven, so how come that couldn’t go both ways?

One day, I determined that I was no longer enjoying the music I was hearing on the radio. I started listening to a Protestant Christian radio station, but soon realized that although these were non-offensive songs, they all sounded as if they were trying to sound like one secular artist or another. I again wanted something to listen to that was more worship-full. By “accident” I found KBVM. I loved the music and I loved that they prayed and talked about Jesus, and how we could live more like he would like us to live. The job I was working at had me driving home at around 7:00 each evening. If any of you listen to KBVM, you know that at 7:00pm they have the Rosary. I listened each evening and soon was able to pray along with it. It felt so natural and right to pray this prayer. I told Michael he should turn on the radio at 7:00 to hear the Rosary. He began to do this regularly while he was waiting for me to come home. I would get home before the Rosary was over, and when I came in the house, he would have it on. We then began listening the Catholic Answers program. We found that the questions being asked, were questions we had. Not surprisingly, the answers made such sense to us.

At the Lutheran church that we were still attending, there was a weekly ladies Bible study that the women were taking turns leading. When it was my time to lead, I poured over the material and the Scriptures and carefully planned my lesson. At the end of the study it occurred to me “What now”? I asked the group “In what way is this Bible study going to change us? What are we going to do better? What are we going to change, give up or begin? They looked at me not having any idea what I was going on about. Is the idea to know every story in the Bible, but not have it effect how we behave?

Because we felt it was our responsibility, Michael and I participated in the Church Council. We both held offices. There was always some kind of drama occurring due to the fact that everybody had opinions on how things should be run and how things were run at the other church they used to belong to before it was spilt up into two groups. There was no authority to go to, no structure. We bowed out of these offices as gracefully as possible, knowing that this was not God’s work we were doing.

I began to share with my good friend from Church, my feelings of emptiness. I told her I was not being spiritually fed or challenged, she said she understood how I felt and that she would pray for me. She didn’t share my feelings however, she is a woman of deep faith and has a great love for Jesus and the Lutheran Church.

Michael also felt that there was something missing. I suggested to him that we really needed to begin a search, and he agreed. I got the listings of all the churches in town, I called and got times of all of their services. The plan was to go to each of them and find one that met our needs. The first one we went to was Holy Redeemer Catholic Church. We went there because we had met Father Mitchell (pastor of Holy Redeemer Parish in Vancouver), and it was closest to our house. It so happened that the service we went to was on a Friday night during Lent, the Stations of the Cross. We walked in 10-15 minutes early. The first thing we noticed was the absolute silence. At our Lutheran church, people would be visiting and chit chatting during this time. These people were on their knees praying or looking lovingly at the Tabernacle or the Crucifix. It was so beautiful. Then the Stations of the Cross began. I followed along as best I could, Michael seemed to know exactly what he was doing. My breath was taken away when they said things like “My Beloved Jesus”, or “Jesus my love”. These words and sentiments felt so right, could this be what I was looking for? As we left, Michael put his arm around me and I looked up and asked what he thought, with moist eyes he said “it was like coming home”. We didn’t stay for the soup supper, because we didn’t know anybody, so we went home, then came back in an hour to hear a talk Father was giving after the supper. I don’t remember all he said, but I was struck that he said that we all need to attend Church every week. He said if we didn’t come for us, we must come because others in the Parish needed us to be there. I have never in my life been told that regular church attendance was a responsibility, in fact I have never had anybody even suggest what I should do or how I should live my life as a Christian. It was like there was some kind of an authority, giving me direction.

We began going to Sunday Mass. My work schedule allowed me to go every morning, but I would have to leave after the homily. Soon, I asked my boss to change my schedule so I could stay for the whole Mass. I couldn’t partake in the Eucharist, but this was definitely the best part of the Mass. I loved watching the faithful walking up the aisle to receive our Lord. They looked like pilgrims. I didn’t understand it for a long time, but I was receiving a spiritual communion, I was receiving such Grace, just watching those faithful dear people.

I would sit at Mass with a little journal and furiously take notes, I would write the scripture passages so Michael could look at them at night. I would write down the responsorial. I also began to write my prayer intentions in this book. I wrote in more than once that the Lord lead Michael to the decision that we convert to the Catholic Church. For some reason, it was very important that this be his decision for us. I knew that he would, I just didn’t know how soon.

We met with our best Lutheran friends to break the news to them that we were on a journey and we weren’t sure where it would take us, but that there was a really good chance that we were Catholic. First, they ordered more margaritas, then gave us their blessings and promised to pray for us.

We then arranged meetings with both our Lutheran Pastor and with Father Mitchell. We gave them each a typed list of our questions. They each had the same list. Both gentlemen were very gracious with their time and answered our questions. Based on the information we had from them, we were able to begin prayerfully making our decision.

As a side note to this, our Lutheran Pastor suggested that maybe we were just attracted to all pomp of the Catholic Mass, we assured him this was not the case, but looking back on it, I think he may have been right. I really do love the fact that Catholic worship is special enough every day to bring out the finery as it were. It is so good to worship the Lord with all of your senses. You hear the bells, smell the smells, feel the beads, say the ancient words and most importantly taste the love in the Holy Eucharist.

Michael soon told our Pastor that we would no longer partake in communion at the Lutheran Church. Then we started only going there on weeks that we were committed to some type of service such as ushering or for the coffee hour. On those weeks, we would go to Mass then go to the Lutheran Church. Soon our commitments there were over and we never went back.

Praise be to God, Michael decided it was time to talk again to Father Mitchell and begin the process of becoming Catholic. Father advised us as to the paperwork we would need to gather to begin this process. It all went very smoothly.

Father had given us several little booklets on how to make a good confession. Each of these books had a different format. I read them each and wrote my answers to the questions they asked. When I was done, I had absolutely pages of things for which I needed forgiveness. Realizing that I wouldn’t have all week to spend in the confessional, I narrowed this list down. I chose to separate the items into the decades of my life. It occurred to me, if we didn’t need the Sacrament of Reconciliation, as I had been taught my whole life, why in the world did I still have guilt and memories of sins I committed as a very young girl?

On September 21, 2002 during daily Mass I was confirmed, I had my first Holy Communion and Michael and I were married. Just like a Catholic Lady, I carried a Rosary and wore a veil. The ladies of the parish gave us a tiny and very beautiful reception. It was so much more meaningful than the very grand wedding we had 20 years before. As I said, we have always had a good marriage, but to understand that it is a Holy Sacrament ordained by God makes us so grateful and we treasure this union so much more than we ever did before.

Since that time, we have grown and learned so many things. Becoming Catholic is more than just changing what religion you are, it is changing your whole life style.

We understand now that if what we are spending our time and resources on is not to glorify Jesus, it is probably not worth doing. This way of thinking has led us to read books, magazines and newspapers that help us to grow in our faith. We have stopped watching TV except for some news each day and maybe some sports. If we hear about a particularly good show, we will tune in. Sometimes in the morning I tune into EWTN on the internet, and there is always something inspiring there. We have found that television is assaulting to our faith and sensibilities. Not only is there a constant stream of poor images and trashy dialogue, but even when we made wise choices from the cable channels, we considered the time spent to be time that could be better used. Furthermore, the silence is so beautiful. You can begin to listen for God’s voice and have ongoing prayer and conversation with him.

We have learned to lead a more simple and frugal life style. We try very hard to not be led by the consumerism that has become our culture. When making purchases, we try to discern if we are getting what we need, or simply what we want. This is not as easy as it sounds. I often think about what our Blessed Savior and his Mother may have had. This helps me to understand the difference between want and need.

Our prayer life continues to grow. I remember when we were learning to say the Rosary, it seemed to take for ever. Now the time goes by so quickly, even when we have added more and more, what Father Mitchell refers to as “the trimmings”. The more you pray, the more you are graced with the desire to pray. Often when I pray my mind starts to wonder. When this happens, I ask my Guardian Angel, who by the way, I think his name is Rufus, to give me a little spiritual tap on the shoulder when I need it. When I am really distracted by all kind of thoughts and images while at prayer and at Mass, I call on St. Michael the Arch Angel to “defend me in battle, to be my safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil”. This helps me and it may help you, too. I would suggest that you make a list of things that you must pray about every day and then make sure that you do.

If I ever have a day when I don’t get all of my prayers in, I call on Rufus, to pray them for me.

I would encourage each of you to establish a special prayer spot in your home. Make it lovely, with candles, flowers, statues, icons, the Bible or what ever religious things you have. This will help you to remember to make time for your prayer, and it will also put you in the right frame of mind.

We have been blessed with so many new friendships in the Catholic Church. Last summer we had dinner parties almost every Saturday night. We would invite several people from the Parish each week, some who didn’t know each other and it was fun to see new relationships develop. A few of our dinner parties included friends from our Lutheran Church, we don’t see them as much as we used to, but it is nice for them to meet our new friends. We surrounded ourselves with these wonderful Catholic people who nourished, encouraged and taught us so much about the faith. We are looking forward to the nice weather to return so we may resume our entertaining, as we have met so many more people that we would like to get to know better.

Our greatest prayer is for our 3 children and their respective loved ones to come to know, love and serve Jesus in the richness and fullness of the Catholic Church. We pray for this daily and have many people and Saints in Heaven praying for this intention as well. Having raised them in the Lutheran Church, it is hard for them to understand how we could have changed our minds. They are very open to conversation and ask us many questions, every time we get a chance to talk to them about the faith we are grateful for the opportunity and we ask the Holy Spirit to give us the right words to use.

I have so many stories of blessings and miracles that we have experienced since entering the Church that I could share with you, but that would take an entire book. My prayer for you is that you continue to grow in your faith. Make time for prayer, study, adoration and relationships with the faithful. Pray daily for the end to the sin of abortion, for our Holy Father, Priests, Deacons, Seminarians, men and woman religious, and those discerning their vocations, this, by the way, should include yourself.

Now, I have learned to make Rosaries that we give away, and I feel that I am being called to assist new Catholics. I am not sure how I am to do this just yet, but I know that if I continue to pray about it that God will make his intentions known to me.

I will ask God to bless you all, and I hope you will do the same for me and my family.

I am blessed and proud to be a Catholic Lady, maybe someday we will again wear veils; I hope we do.


Thank you.

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